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Dramatic Arc...Rising to the Peak 1/19/07


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Mary Rosenblum

Hello all!

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Welcome to our Friday After Hours Forum. The snow is melting, I have power...what more could I ask for?

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I wanted to talk about dramatic arc tonight because that's one of those terms that shows up all the time...

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but it's easy for writing teachers and authors of books on writing to assume the student or reader understands what it means.

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And they don't always.

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It's something that applies to nonfiction, too, for that matter. Not ALL nonfiction but enough that it's worth thinking about.

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Dramatic arc is an arc.

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It begins at the start of your piece, reaches a peak somewhere in the story or narrative

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and drops down to about the same level as it began.

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The shape of that arc is the shape of your story or narrative.

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Does the 'high point' come too early? Does it come at the very end of the piece?

geezer

I'm doing a synopsis where I hit high points. Should I be attempting to have an arc? It seems like a laundry list.

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You should geeze, but you can take things one step at a time here. :-)

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A novel length plot -- that's what this is, right? -- has many dramatic high points.

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It is essentially a very large arc composed of smaller arcs.

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Too bad I can't do graphics in here. Where's my overhead projector when I need it?

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So you have a big arc that's kind of jagged.

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Once you have figured out your laundry list of high points start thinking about which one is your main climax.

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That is the high point of your dramatic arc for that novel.

xana

You could create a web page with the graphics and give us the url

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Well, I could, but just think of an arc made of a jagged line. :-)

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Your story needs to build to that peak...your climax.

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Then it drops off to the end...usually pretty quickly. Some stories end right after the climax, others include a chapter or scene to tie up loose ends.

charie'

I envision a ski slope with moguls (little bumps) only we get to ski uphill to the climax.

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That's a good one Charie. And at the top, you generally have a ski jump. :-)

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But what you don't want, geeze, is a series of those small peaks on flat ground...

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so that your readers sort of bump along but never reach a climax point.

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But of course, your story or novel has a central conflict, no matter how many secondary conflicts you've introduced in your subplots.

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The climax generally occurs when your characters reach the point at which they must either solve the central conflict or fail to solve it. That either/or point is the climax of the story.

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Before that point they can face smaller conflicts that must be resolved...

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they might be journeying across country to face the evil wizard in his castle and have to defeat enemies and traverse dangerous terrain.

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All these are small dramatic peaks.

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But they are getting closer to the wizard and that tension is mounting.

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The climax comes when our hero or heroine faces the wizard and one will live and one will die.

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There's a classic fantasy dramatic arc for you. :-)

dub cooper

Like a skyrocket - Ignition, ascent, decline , and surprise.

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Almost...but more like the forth of july sort where the peak of the ascent is where the skyrocket explodes into a shower of stars.

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The descent is pretty unexciting...which is true for most stories.

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When you're working on a short story, the high point is usually pretty clear.

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This character has a problem and when he has to solve it or fail, there's your climax.

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It can be a bit tougher in a novel with its greater space and complexity.

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But I tend to make sure I know the high point of my dramatic arc before I begin writing a novel.

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I may find an entirely different way to get there than I expected when I first roughed out the plot, but I generally know what I'm aiming at...then I find the most interesting route to get there.

writermom

How about in a series, do you want to start a new arc at the end of the first book to tie you to the second book?

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It's not a good idea to be too overt about that. It'll be a year or more before Book Two is out and readers get surly when they want to read it NOW...but you can plant situations in One

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that will turn out to start the plot going in Two.

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And if you're planning a series from the start, you can create an overall dramatic arc for the entire series.

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Each book will have its own dramatic arc, but the series as a whole will have one, too.

janecj333

What about for those of us who have no idea where the story's going until about midway, and then the climax grows organically from that point?

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That's fine. I always figure I know what my book is about when I type 'the end' on the last page of the first draft.

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It's all fluid until then. :-)

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But the reason to know the shape of that arc at some point is that you can refine the shape to make the novel stronger.

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If your dramatic peak comes halfway through the novel, it's going to be tough to keep readers engaged for the second half of the book.

charie'

Aren't there mini-arcs in each chapter that reflect the try-fail, try-fail pattern until the try-succeed climax?

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Each chapter should have a dramatic arc, charie, but I wouldn't make it that formulaic.

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The story takes on a very predictable pattern if you do.

charie'

Then are the smaller dramatic arcs more like points of interest building toward the climax?

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They're interactions that increase tension briefly.

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Think of it as waves on a beach. Each wave comes a bit higher up the beach.

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And finally it crashes against the rocks as the tide reaches full.

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Two characters might have an emotional encounter.

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A character might find out something that affects her strongly.

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These points of tension should move the story closer to the climax and crank the tension a bit more.

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What you don't want is simply a flat story of event...event...event... without any rise in tension.

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For the most powerful stories, every scene should include something that moves the plot forward. IT might be a slight movement, but it should connect.

april cassandra katko2

What do you mean by rise in tension?

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Let me give you an example, April.

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Here's a breakfast scene. Joanna and Carl meet for breakfast in a restaurant. He orders waffles, she orders an omelette, they talk about their day yesterday and their plans for the weekend.

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No rise in tension here. It's flat. We're merely observing an everyday activity.

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Same scene. As Carl talks about his day at the gas station he owns, he mentions a man in a blue antique sports car.

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Joanna tenses up. That sounds like Jan, her ex husband. She's been hiding from him.

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Anything wrong? Carl asks her. Aren't you hungry.

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No, she says. She's dating Carl and she doesn't want to tell him about Jan.

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Now we have a rise in tension.

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A new conflict has been injected into the scene....a disharmony if you will.

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Joanna now is keeping a secret from Car and might be in danger from Jan.

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At the end of the meal, as they exit into the bright sunshine, Joanna decides he's probably just passing through and she'll just stay home and paint in her gallery today.

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Her friend owns the motel and she can call her, make sure Jan isn't staying here. Everything is okay.

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But she still looks carefully up and down the street before she heads home and checks the alleyway. So the tension has dropped somewhat...

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her initial moment of panic has passed...but it's still higher than it was before.

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She still hasn't told Carl and she's watching the streets in case Jan is around.

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That's the kind of small dramatic arc that 'bumps up' the overall tension in a scene or or a chapter and helps create the main dramatic arc.

info

And it raises the question whether she will tell Carl or if Carl will somehow find out.

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That's right. And even if Jan isn't staying in the motel, he might still be around.

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So we've increased the number of things that could happen, could go wrong.

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That is how you increase tension.

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Now lets' think of the next little dramatic arc to bump up the tension.

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Maybe she goes for a walk on the beach at twilight and on the way home down a familiar path, she hears noises in the brush and starts running.

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Something...or someone...is chasing her. Of course it could be Jan.

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She gets home panting and sobbing, fumbles the key into the lock and slams the door behind her. Then stands panting int he dark house.

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Switches on the floods...nobody out there.

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Tension has just bumped up a big notch here.

charie'

The gallery owner mentions that someone wants to buy the painting she has displayed as Not for Sale.

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Or has slashed it while she was in the back room.

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Again...a bump up.

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Someone is out there. Is it Jan? Does he mean to harm her? Or just frighten her?

geezer

The floorboards creak overhead

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I'd say that would probably happen at your main climax, geeze, where she does confront her stalker. Who of course is not Jan. (Sorry, I'm a mystery writer...it's never the obvious perp)

xana

How do you avoid being melodramatic?

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You tone it down, xana.

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You let the character be the one who reacts and you make it look as if that character is over reacting.

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LIke her run home. The neighbor's German Shepherd emerges from the brush right after she has locked that door behind her and switched on the floods.

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Oh, of course. Gretchen is always getting loose and running on the beach and she loves company.

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It was just Gretchen.

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Only of course, tomorrow, she'll find boot tracks on her path.

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But of course any tourist could have hiked through here...

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So you see saw it...moment of fear...counter moment of rational explanation.

janecj333

Can you describe the gradual rise in tension, then, as a function of what each character fears most?

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That depends, Jane, on whether that character's greatest fear drives the main plot.

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Here, where Joann'a greatest fear at the moment might be Jan, yes her fears can drive most of the dramatic rises in tension.

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But if that character's greatest fear is not directly connected to the main plot, then more often than not, the rise in tension will occur

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becuase of some event that connects to the main plot.

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Let's look at a traditional mystery.

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here the MC is trying to solve a murder.

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The rises in dramatic tension will probably result mostly from clues that nudge the story toward the climax.

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The sleuth finds out that a neighbor has a hidden business connenction with the dead woman.

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He finds out she might have had a child thirty years ago.

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Here the tension is often not advanced by a direct threat against the sleuth..

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although that can happen, too...but my new paths that seem to lead toward the murderer.

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Here its a 'we're getting closer, we're getting closer' tension.

charie'

So you provide a benign explanation for the cause of the tension.

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Sure.

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If you make it obvious, where's the fun?

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For most people, a lot of the pleasure in reading is that curiosity-tickle that eventually gets scratched.

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That's true even in mainstream. We want to find out.

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We want to find out if she faces her father, we want to find out if he vanquishes the wizard, we want to find out if Jan is out there.

janecj333

So maybe tension is a function of what the main character wants the most?

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I think you're over simplifying, Jane. It can be created through many avenues, not just one.

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It can be an event that expands possibilities.

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It can be an event that suggests danger.

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It can be an event that suggests a conclusion (that turns out to be wrong. :-))

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It can be an event that suggests a risk to someone

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I would say...searching for a genealization here...it is something that tweaks our curiosity.

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Is Jan out there? What was in the bushes? Is this the murder weapon? Could she have a son?

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Will he get fired?

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Will she get grounded when she gets home?

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Is this her long lost daughter?

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Is she going to get the scholarship?

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The tension rise can be because something good might happen to the character. :-)

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Oh we WANT her to find that daughter. We WANT him to get that scholarship.

april cassandra katko2

I am still having trouble with show verus tell.

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It's a hard technique to master, april. But once you have it...you HAVE it. Have you read the article on the LR website?

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Invite the Reader to the Party?

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That might help you.

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It's in Writing Craft: The Plot Thickens.

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You'll find a lot of very helpful articles in Writing Craft.

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So what you are doing as you create those small dramatic moments that bump up the tension and bring us closer to that peak of the main dramatic arc, the climax

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is to keep tugging on reader curiosity. What's going to happen now? Will this happen? Will that happen?

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When characters march slowly and inexorably to the end of the story....we are bored!

grayalien

Is it ok to radically alter the entire plot in the middle of the novel?

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Sure. :-) I've done it more than once.

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Novels are organic. They grow and change and that aha moment in the middle can send you off in an entirely unexpected direction. :-)

janecj333

You're talking about unpredictability.

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Yes?

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Writing is nothing if not unpredictable. :-) Paint by number it is not.

charie'

Do moments of humor release a little tension so you can build toward the next arc? (Like in horror movies)

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Sure.

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Gretchen the German Shepherd bounding out of the woods and then beggin at Joanna's door until she gives her a treat might provide a nice light

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moment after that tearful flight through the brush.

janecj333

I mean using the unpredictable as the engine to keep your story on an uphill course.

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Well, sure, as long as you control those seemingly unpredictable happenings so that your story stays on course. :-)

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The river floods. You can't get across now. But you have a timetable. What now?

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There's a little bump up in tension

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So essentially, you use these small events, encounters, conversations to bump us up that dramatic arc to the peak, the climax.

janecj333

The ticking clock.

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Yep, that's a great one, Jane.

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Every time you remind readers that time is running out, the tension bumps up.

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This is what gives you a story that won't let readers go from start to finish.

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When your characters are just plodding along it's easy to get distracted and go read something else. :-)

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Those bumps don't need to be life and death, or include violence.

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They just have to tug on reader curiosity.

grayalien

A more interesting question...is it possible to change genre within a novel? For instance, evolving from a family drama into a crime thriller? Or having a mystery gradually turn into a fantasy adventure? Has that been done before?

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YOu have books that cross genre, gray. Snow Falling on Cedars is both mystery and mainstream at the same time, for example.

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Mystery works with just about any genre. :-)

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All my SF novels are mysteries.

charie'

Princess bride is a family story and a fantasy-adventure.

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There you go.

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Genre just tells the bookstore where to shelve the book, that's all.

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YOu don't have barbed wire fences between them.

geezer

Snow Falling on Cedars isn't literary?

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Literary mainstream, but it's a mystery geeze. :-)

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It's a murder mystery as a matter of fact.

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This has been a fun Forum.

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Do join us on Sunday night for our casual get together.

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I'm not driving up to Seattle for my signing until Monday, so I"ll be here.

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Let us hope that the weather cooperates, sigh.

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I'll post the transcript in the usual place. :-)

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Writing Craft: Forum Transcripts.

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Have a good weekend and stay warm!

 

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