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mary rosenblum
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Good morning all.
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mary rosenblum
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I hope you had a fine weekend.
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mary rosenblum
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I enjoyed my time presenting
panels at the Willamette Writers Conference. That is a very well run
conference...
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mary rosenblum
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and had an attendance of about
800.
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mary rosenblum
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This is the Tuesday Forum with
me Mary Rosenblum LR Web Editor, fiction and nonfiction writer. We're
talking about first person POV this morning. If you're new here, remember
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mary rosenblum
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Part of the reason I chose the
topic this morning, is that one of the panels I presented was on dialogue.
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mary rosenblum
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And we touched on first
person.
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mary rosenblum
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It became very clear that a
lot of people who automatically use first person in their fiction or
personal narrative nonfiction...
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mary rosenblum
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really do not understand the
strengths...and weaknesses...of that voice.
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mary rosenblum
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It is a POV choice that is
actually more difficult to do well than third person, even though it seems
easier. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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What is often missing from
first person is characterization and that is the critical component of good
first person POV.
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mary rosenblum
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Remember that your first
person POV needs to be a character to your readers...just as human and well
developed as the third person character you create.
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mary rosenblum
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Even if that narrator is YOU,
you still need to reveal yourself as a character to the reader.
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mary rosenblum
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If you don't do this...and the
majority of novice writers who use first person don't give it a thought...
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mary rosenblum
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then all you end up doing is
to describe the action. You simply tell the readers what is going on
without adding anything.
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mary rosenblum
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Of course ALL first person is
essentially 'telling'.
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mary rosenblum
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But if your narrator brings
strong characterization to the party, you compensate for that 'telling'
voice.
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mary rosenblum
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Most novice writers simply
have the first person character tell us what is going on.
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mary rosenblum
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Sometimes that character
includes his/her own thoughts, but often not.
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mary rosenblum
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And the result is a very
'told' story. Kind of boring, most of the time.
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mary rosenblum
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Realize that if you do not
give constant, conscious thought to your narrator's voice and world view,
then you will simply use your voice and world view.
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sundale
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I'm confused, the narrator tells
the story anyway. what more is needed to make the first person work though
that?
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mary rosenblum
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Interest, sundale.
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mary rosenblum
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Readers don't read boring
stories or narratives.
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mary rosenblum
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Remember that it's
characterization that engages readers most strongly.
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mary rosenblum
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And if you don't develop your
narrator as a character, then all you have is action, and told action at
that, and no character to care about.
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mary rosenblum
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It won't seem like a real
person telling an engaging story. It'll read more like a voice over. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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Your first person narrator
needs to ADD to that action and dialogue he/she is recounting through...
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mary rosenblum
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a unique world view -- not
yours -- a strong and interesting voice -- and enough personal insights and
asides...
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mary rosenblum
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that your narrator adds to the
value of the story.
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mary rosenblum
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By value I mean how strongly
your readers are engaged with that story.
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mary rosenblum
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This is the Tuesday Forum with
me Mary Rosenblum LR Web Editor, fiction and nonfiction writer. We're
talking about first person POV this morning. If you're new here, remember
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mary rosenblum
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Try to give readers insights
into who your narrator is, how that person thinks, feels, and what he/she
knows that we don't that will add to the depth of the story.
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mary rosenblum
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This is an example of what I
mean.
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"I got up early Tuesday
and got to the market as soon as it opened. I wanted to get the best piece
of fish they had for my dinner party. Harold had already piled the
morning's catch in the bin with ice, and I made him dig the very bottom
fish out from the pile. He wasn't happy."
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mary rosenblum
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This gives us the basic story
of our narrator going to the market and buying fish from Harold. But we
don't have any sense of the narrator as person and we don't know a lot more
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mary rosenblum
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than the basic actions here.
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mary rosenblum
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Now let me turn our faceless
narrator into a character.
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mary rosenblum
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I showed up at the store right
at opening time, but Harold, that old sneak, he knew the Judge and his wife
were coming to dinner, so the old goat figured I'd do that. He kept me
waiting five minutes and then had the nerve to tell me my watch was slow.
When the clock on the wall was saying it was five past.
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mary rosenblum
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Well, I know his tricks. I
marched right back to the fish bin and I made him dig right down to the
bottom. The old sneak. He always puts the best fish down there, so he can
bring it out for Prissy. If he thinks she's going to marry him...
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mary rosenblum
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just because he saves the best
fish for him, he's got another think coming. Who'd marry that old goat
anyway? But I got my fish and he was still scowling when I left.
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mary rosenblum
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I'll tell the Judge and his
wife I bought that fish over in Springwater, I will!
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mary rosenblum
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If you notice, these are now
two very different stories. One is just the action of buying the fish, and
the other is a strong sense of this purchaser, and her feelings about
Harold and his love life. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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The voice has added value to
the action of fish buying. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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This is the Tuesday Forum with
me Mary Rosenblum LR Web Editor, fiction and nonfiction writer. We're
talking about first person POV this morning. If you're new here, remember
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crash bam
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One of the issues I've had with
first person is describing the narrator physically. It always sounds
contrived. Any tips on doing that?
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mary rosenblum
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It is REALLY hard to do,
crash, without being utterly obvious and earning a snicker from the reader.
:-)
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mary rosenblum
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You have to give your first
person narrator a reason to think about how he/she looks.
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mary rosenblum
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How often do you think about
your appearance in detail? Maybe in the morning, inspecting your face in
the bathroom mirror...
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mary rosenblum
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putting on makeup or checking
for zits, or shaving. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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Or you might compare yourself
to someone else.
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mary rosenblum
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Wow, I wish I had that figure.
Compared to her curves, I'm a stick figure!
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xana
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Why can't you have another
character make remarks about the narrator's appearance?
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mary rosenblum
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Yep, that's another way.
Again...plausible is the key here.
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mary rosenblum
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Anna just had to make a snarky
remark about how I've gained weight. Well, she's no super model either.
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kems
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I've been reading a lot of 1st
person novels for guidance. One inconsistency I found is some authors use
italics when showing inner thoughts and some don't. Is there a right or
wrong way to convey your characters thoughts?
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kems
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One book I read put each thought
on a different line, as opposed to keeping it all in the same paragraph.
Any rules as to why she did this? Or was this just be considered this authors
style?
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mary rosenblum
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You want the thoughts to be
clearly thoughts to the reader, but I tend to use italic VERY sparingly.
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mary rosenblum
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Readers nearly always 'hear'
it as a raised voice or a 'different' voice at least.
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mary rosenblum
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If you're doing strong first
person, your character is most of the time talking to himself/herself (and
the reader).
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mary rosenblum
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If you're going to
differentiate between that internal monologue and a 'thought', you can
simply let the first person do it.
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mary rosenblum
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"Yeah," I told
Carrie. "Let's do the show tonight. I've got nothing better to
do." And I'm thinking that Bert will be real ticked off when he shows
up and I'm not there. He'll maybe think I'm out on a real date.
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janecj333
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Instead of physical description,
emotional description can add a lot of color, can't it?
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mary rosenblum
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Physical description is highly
overrated. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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It is NOT what makes your
character memorable and each reader will see the character that person
wants to see.
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mary rosenblum
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It won't be exactly what YOU
see.
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mary rosenblum
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IT does pay to make sure
gender, general age, and body type are clear.
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mary rosenblum
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It's a REAL shock to find out
your male POV is really a girl halfway through the story.
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mary rosenblum
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And here's a caveat.
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mary rosenblum
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ALL, I repeat ALL readers
assume that the first person voice is the same gender as the author until
proven otherwise.
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mary rosenblum
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Since I have done exactly ONE
female first person POV in my literary life, I have had to be very careful
to bring gender into it on page one.
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mary rosenblum
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And that is not easy!
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mary rosenblum
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This is the Tuesday Forum with
me Mary Rosenblum LR Web Editor, fiction and nonfiction writer. We're
talking about first person POV this morning. If you're new here, remember
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hidden fairy
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Don't we have to be careful
about how many times we use "I"
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mary rosenblum
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Yes, hidden. It gets very
monotonous and it means you're describing the action and not using your
character's voice well.
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mary rosenblum
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I went to the store. I had
Harold dig the best fish from the bottom of the pile. I went home.
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mary rosenblum
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Compare that to the fully
fleshed narrator ranting about Harold and his hidden fish and his love
life.
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mary rosenblum
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I actually used I four times
in that (quick count, I might have missed one), but it's buried in the
narrator's other sentences that do not use 'I', so they shouldn't be
noticable.
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mary rosenblum
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It's the repetitive I did
this, I did that, I did this, I did that that is going to drive readers
screaming from your pages. Sort of like Chinese water torture.
Drip...drip....drip.
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kems
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Thanks for the input. In your
example above ...nothing better to do." And I'm thinking that Bert
will be real ticked... Would it be okay to leave out the 'And I'm thinking
that Bert' and just write, for ei.....nothing better to do." Bert will
be real ticked...
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mary rosenblum
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Sure kems.
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mary rosenblum
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A lot of your 'voice' is all
about rhythm.
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mary rosenblum
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Sometimes I want to portray a
character a certain way, and will give that person a choppy, broken speech
rhythm...
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mary rosenblum
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because it supports his
character. Another first person character might use long, run on sentences
and flowery language.
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mary rosenblum
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Every first person character
should have a very distinct voice that suits his/her background, education,
social and cultural status.
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mary rosenblum
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Before I ever write line one
of a first person story, I have evolved that character and developed a very
specific speech pattern for him/her.
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mary rosenblum
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This is the Tuesday Forum with
me Mary Rosenblum LR Web Editor, fiction and nonfiction writer. We're
talking about first person POV this morning. If you're new here, remember
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gail
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What factors of a story make you
choose first person narrative over limited third-person?
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mary rosenblum
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That's a good question, gail,
because you do have reasons to make choices.
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mary rosenblum
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I find that stories involving
a lot of action and drama tend to work better in third...you distance your
readers...
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mary rosenblum
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from the action when the
narrator has to tell them about what's happening...
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mary rosenblum
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and your narrator may be too
busy to say much.
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mary rosenblum
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If you have a story without a
lot of action, drama, or dialogue and your character seems to do a lot of
internal monologue anyway...
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mary rosenblum
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try first.
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mary rosenblum
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if I find myself using too
much internal POV in third, I'll start over and try first person.
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beirdd
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Mary, an author recently
submitted a story to me written in first-person, present tense. How often
have you seen that done? I found it very awkward to read.
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mary rosenblum
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I believe that all of my first
person stories are in present tense. I do that because I don't want my
readers to know if my MC survives the story or not. :-) But it may be that
your...
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mary rosenblum
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author just didn't do it well.
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mary rosenblum
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Most readers can't remember if
I ask them later if the story was in present tense or past. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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Present tense is VERY awkward
in third person.
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mary rosenblum
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It really distracts the reader
from the story.
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mary rosenblum
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But it seems to work fine in
first person...it the author does it well.
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beirdd
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Maybe I didn't describe it
properly. He didn't use "opened the door" or any past tense. EVERYthing
was present tense, what the protag did and what everyone else did, too.
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mary rosenblum
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It has to be, beirdd.
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mary rosenblum
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If you mix past and present it
really clashes!
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mary rosenblum
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It probably had to do with
what he was writing and how he did it.
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mary rosenblum
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It can be pretty seamless.
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mary rosenblum
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This is the Tuesday Forum with
me Mary Rosenblum LR Web Editor, fiction and nonfiction writer. We're
talking about first person POV this morning. If you're new here, remember
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sundale
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The thing I've had to catch
myself with is emotion. Since it's first person the narrator should feel
something when his wife is out cold on the floor.
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beirdd
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I guess he just didn't do a good
job of it, because it was very clunky to read.
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mary rosenblum
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Yeah, it's probably just a
matter of craft.
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mary rosenblum
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Sun, that's where the 'added
value' of first person comes in...
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mary rosenblum
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it's the narrator's internal
reaction to what he/she sees/hears/senses that adds to the action and
dialogue...
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mary rosenblum
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and it really needs to be
there!
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mary rosenblum
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As you say, if your MC opens
the door to find his wife on the floor and dispassionately describes the
scene...
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mary rosenblum
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you'd better have established
it well that this guy really doesn't care much for her. :-)
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janecj333
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In a first person pov story, do
the secondary characters inhabit the first person pov, as well?
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mary rosenblum
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I'm not quite sure what you
mean, Jane. ?
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mary rosenblum
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Can you add a bit here?
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janecj333
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In third person stories, pov can
alternate between characters. I mean, can that occur in first person, too?
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mary rosenblum
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Ah, I see what you mean.
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mary rosenblum
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Yes, you can do that.
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mary rosenblum
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As with third person, it's a
lot easier to do in novel form.
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mary rosenblum
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One of the people attending my
dialogue panel was working on a novel with dual first person POVs.
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mary rosenblum
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But your voices really really
REALLY need to be quite different it you do this.
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janecj333
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Can you show us present tense in
first person, and then in thrid person?
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mary rosenblum
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So I was up to my elbows in
saffron-colored dishwater and paella pans when all of a sudden there's
light and more noise and bodies than usual in the crowded barely-legal
little kitchen. And I turn around, dripping greasy yellow suds and there's
this woman with a mic and a couple of walking-camera guys all rigged out in
the relay-goggles, getting the 'human eye' view. And the woman is pointing
the mic at me and babbling something in a loud, bright, talking-head voice.
Something about technology and Doctor somebody, and how do I feel?
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mary rosenblum
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I feel like crap. I don't own
a mirror, not even to shave. I don't need one. Any time I want to see my
face, I just have to look at somebody. I get a nice clear reflection of the
minimum rebuild work that National Health did on me. Not pretty. Be glad
you never ran into me on a dark night. And I'm used to it, I mean, I can't
even remember what I looked like before the fire, but...well, I guess it
still bugs me. And I'm looking at the camera goggles and thinking I won't
even be able to surf the news streams for at least twenty four hours.
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mary rosenblum
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Excuse the language.
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mary rosenblum
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Present tense in third person
works the same way.
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mary rosenblum
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She walks into the coffeeshop
and looks around and Sally isn't there. So she sits down at the counter and
orders a slice of peach pie. It's not on her diet, but right now she
doesn't care.
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mary rosenblum
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There's nothing wrong with
present tense in third person, per se.
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mary rosenblum
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It's used quite often in
literary fiction.
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mary rosenblum
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But it tends to stand out in genre
and readers hate it.
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mary rosenblum
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I think it's not as noticeable
in first person where you have a strong character voice.
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telcontar
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okay, now that you've got my
curiosity going... is there MORE about the burned guy?? pweeze?
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mary rosenblum
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Sure, tel. That's a couple of
paragraphs from Skin Deep.
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mary rosenblum
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It's in the 2005 Best of the
Year SF so it'll be in print for a long time. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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If you're going to use dual
first person voices in a novel, it's much better if you switch POV at the
chapter breaks.
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mary rosenblum
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And make sure your voices are
SO distinct that readers instantly know who is speaking.
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xana
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Do you recall how many rewrites
you did on that paragraph?
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xana
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It didin't read like something
you had just written
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mary rosenblum
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No, xana, I don't. I usually
revise a story/novel three times -- after the first draft, I mean.
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mary rosenblum
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Sometimes more, but this one
worked pretty well in first draft, so I doubt it was more than three
passes.
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mary rosenblum
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But what that passage is an
example of is characterization.
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mary rosenblum
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This POV is a kid who's 19,
grew up in foster care, getting minimal restoration. He has a HS
education..
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mary rosenblum
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and has learned most of what
he knows from the internet because he doesn't go out in public much.
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mary rosenblum
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His pattern of speech,
rapid,choppy, high energy, is meant to reflect his age, his lack of
conversational skills with other people, his isolation and nervousness
around strangers. :-)
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sundale
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What about things the narrator
doesn't see or hear? For example....
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mary rosenblum
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Yes?
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sundale
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Jill glanced back and forth
between us. “I don’t understand,” She said, “True production may be set
back, but why are those shipyards so important to the project?” I really
didn’t register that Jill had said anything.
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sundale
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does this work?
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mary rosenblum
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Sure.
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mary rosenblum
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You really can't tell us what
a POV -- first or third -- doesn't know without violating the POV, but you
can do just that...
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mary rosenblum
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let Jill say something and
your POV says, I wasn't really paying attention.
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mary rosenblum
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That way the reader knows what
the reader needs to know and later on, if needed, your POV can forget.
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mary rosenblum
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Oh, that's right, Sally told
us something about shipyards. But I think I was worrying about Jack that
day and didn't pay attention.
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mary rosenblum
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Or Jill as the case may be.
:-)
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mary rosenblum
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I think you'd want to let your
POV say he/she wasn't paying attention rather than "I didn't register
anything'...
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mary rosenblum
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because if he/she didn't
...then the words wouldn't be there.
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mary rosenblum
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But if he/she says "I
really wasn't paying attention', the effect is of 'in one ear and out the
other' but the readers can remember. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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It's equally important with
either first or third to think about your characters' reactions to what is
going on around them.
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mary rosenblum
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That is how you reveal
characterization, and too little of it creates a flat character.
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mary rosenblum
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Of course, too much bogs down
the story.
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mary rosenblum
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But the MC's reaction is much
more obvious in first person...
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mary rosenblum
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since that character is
constantly speaking to us, in effect.
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mary rosenblum
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And it is that lack of MC
reaction that turns first person into a pretty thin and colorless narrative
description.
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gail
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To Kill A Mockingbird was on my
summer reading list this year, and I'm struck again with awe of Lee's craft
and by how much depth Scout's narrative adds to the story.
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mary rosenblum
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Oh, absolutely!
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mary rosenblum
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I think it's one of the
strongest examples of American literature out there, a classic example...
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mary rosenblum
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of the perfect dramatic
tripod, and one of the best examples of first person narrative you can
find. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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I don't think that story would
have succeeded as well in third person.
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mary rosenblum
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And I've often wondered if she
started it in first or tried third in the original draft.
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mary rosenblum
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It is also a classic example
of making a point without every telling the reader anything.
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janecj333
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And first person narrative is basically
the character thinking or talking to himself?
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mary rosenblum
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Exactly.
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mary rosenblum
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In effect, it is really a one
sided conversation with the reader...
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mary rosenblum
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where the speaker doesn't
leave conversational pauses for the reader to respond. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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And because that MC is talking
to herself...and us...we get all the internal asides that would have to be
included as internal narrative in third person.
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mary rosenblum
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First person is nearly all
internal narrative. :-)
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janecj333
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Can you really get away with
that now? Too self-indulgent?
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mary rosenblum
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What, first person, Jane?
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xana
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And we all know that most
non-stop speakers are bores, so this is a clue on how we'd better write in
first person
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mary rosenblum
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Bingo, xana!
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mary rosenblum
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That is why it is HARDER to
write first person.
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mary rosenblum
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You have to make that nonstop
yammering NOT boring.
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mary rosenblum
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It is an extremely difficult
POV for novel length work. We get to listen to your character for 350
pages!
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janecj333
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The one-sided conversation with
the reader...like a lecture, only masquerading as fiction.
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mary rosenblum
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Oh hardly. Some of the polls
I've seen suggest that first person is more popular than third.
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mary rosenblum
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I think it makes readers feel as
if it's more 'real'.
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mary rosenblum
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A real person lived this. It
blurrs the line between fiction and nonfiction narrative.
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gail
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For me, effective first-person
makes me feel as though I'm reading someone diary or journal -- almost
guilty for having access to so much intimate detail.
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mary rosenblum
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Exactly.
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mary rosenblum
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But you do have to do it WELL
for that to work.
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mary rosenblum
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Three hundred pages of boring
natting will not get you readers.
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mary rosenblum
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boring nattering, I meant. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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If you read the successful
narrative writers like MacManus, Bailey White, Alice Walker...
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mary rosenblum
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you'll find that they have
strong and unique voices.
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gwanny
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It's more like being told a
fascinating story by a good friend over a cup of coffe ( or a pot of
it)...if it's really well done
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mary rosenblum
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yes.
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mary rosenblum
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That's when you get a sense of
the person as character.
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mary rosenblum
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That's why it's important.
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mary rosenblum
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We want to feel that the
narrator is a real person.
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mary rosenblum
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I did spot your question,
Walt.
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mary rosenblum
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Walt asked what a dramatic
tripod is.
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mary rosenblum
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Sorry...I should have
explained.
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mary rosenblum
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Story is a tripod, made up of
three legs: Plot, Character, Setting.
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mary rosenblum
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Many books have only two
strong legs. They might have a strong plot and good characters...
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mary rosenblum
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but the story could take place
in a variety of times and/or places.
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mary rosenblum
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But in To Kill a Mockingbird
the where/when of the story is as important to the whole as the plot and
the characters.
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mary rosenblum
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It really couldn't have
happened that way in another time and place.
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mary rosenblum
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Snow Falling on Cedars is similar
that way.
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mary rosenblum
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All three legs of the tripod
are equally strong.
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mary rosenblum
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This is the Tuesday Forum with
me Mary Rosenblum LR Web Editor, fiction and nonfiction writer. We're
talking about first person POV this morning. If you're new here, remember
that you need to click on the Ask a Question button or the word bubble next
to the red question mark at the top of the screen, or use the ask a
question icon in order to ask a question. Your regular send bar won't reach
me! You can also type /ask in front of your question in your regular send
bar to reach me.
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mary rosenblum
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Oh yes...
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mary rosenblum
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another difficulty in first
person?
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mary rosenblum
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Your character's name. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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It is not easy to find a
plausible way to give the readers your POV's name.
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mary rosenblum
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Of course you can wait longer
to slip in your character's name.
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mary rosenblum
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But remember...if the MC is
not of your gender, you need to make that clear on page one.
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mary rosenblum
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There is an infamous
illustration of one of my short stories where the MC in the illo has
breasts. My character was male.
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mary rosenblum
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The artist didn't read far
enough to realize that. LOL.
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mary rosenblum
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They cropped the illustration
but an editor friend of mine bought me the original as a little lesson. :-)
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gwanny
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I keep doing it through dialogue
with other characters...the name I mean
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gwanny
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Only way I can seem to get it to
work right :)
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mary rosenblum
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That's the easiest way, if you
have dialogue in a scene.
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xana
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Is it ok to beginwith something
like: My name is Sam Snicklesmuff and I'm a clown?
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mary rosenblum
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Maybe.
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mary rosenblum
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Depends on how the story goes.
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mary rosenblum
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I've certainly seen stories
that have started just that way and work fine.
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sundale
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I find 2 meathods widely used.
1)an introduction paraphraph from the narrator, then the stroy starts
2)other charactors that make those things clear early on.
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mary rosenblum
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Yeah, I"d avoid the
introductory paragraph, sun.
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mary rosenblum
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It's clunky and you would be
shocked at how many readers skip it. :-)
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gwanny
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How about an example of
alternatives Mary?
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mary rosenblum
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There aren't a lot. You can
have someone summon that person by name...a doctor's appointment, or
something.
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mary rosenblum
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He/she can read a letter
opening...
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mary rosenblum
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notice his/her name on an
award.
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mary rosenblum
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But you have the vivid
presence of the character's voice.
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mary rosenblum
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The name is not really an
important issue.
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mary rosenblum
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I can't even remember what I
named the character in that excerpt I dropped in here.
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mary rosenblum
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I know that character
intimately, but I probably used his name once in the story.
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mary rosenblum
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Just to keep readers from
complaining that I didn't name him. :-)
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janecj333
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"Get off the table,
Johnny," my mom used to say. That was before I had 'em tweak me at the
GenderReassign, and started pulling in the big bucks doing lap dances at 1
am, Eastern time."
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mary rosenblum
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Good example. I love it, hee
hee.
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mary rosenblum
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There you not only give our
character's original name, but make the current gender quite clear. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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Overall, remember, it's not
enough to just use 'I' and describe the action.
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mary rosenblum
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Your 'I" whether it is
you or a made up character, needs to be a complete, fully developed, real
person to your readers.
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mary rosenblum
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You need to let your first
person narrator add his/her 'two cents worth' to what is going on...
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mary rosenblum
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as asides, tone of
description, that sort of thing...
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mary rosenblum
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so that we develop a sense of
this person, what he or she is like.
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mary rosenblum
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Then it DOES seem like a story
told by a good friend rather than a monotone narrative.
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mary rosenblum
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Well, this has been a fun
Oregon hour.
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mary rosenblum
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I'll post the transcripts in
the usual place.
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mary rosenblum
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Writing Craft: Forum
Transcripts.
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mary rosenblum
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ANd if you have time for
summer reading, I recommend To Kill a Mockingbird as a marvelous example of
novel craft, period.
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mary rosenblum
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See you tomorrow for our
casual chat.
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mary rosenblum
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I'll be a bit late, since I'm
going to be tutoring first thing in the morning. :-)
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walte
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Tomorrow?
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mary rosenblum
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Yep, tomorrow, Walte.
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mary rosenblum
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We get together to chat about
anything and everything. :-)
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mary rosenblum
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Have a good day, all!
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