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New Years Resolution? Or Writer's Block? 1/5/07

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Fri Jan 05 19:01:49 2007

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Fri Jan 05 20:12:09 2007



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mary rosenblum

Hello all and happy New Year!

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Welcome to our first Forum of 2007.

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And of course we're having yet ANOTHER wind storm here in the Northwest.

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[Sigh. This is getting VERY old]

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So if I vanish, I lost either my cable or my electricity. We will devoutly hope that the big locust tree -- the one that did not come down in the LAST storm --

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does not come down on the roof while I'm here.

geezer

Us too. Was in a dust storm this morning with visibility of about 8 feet!!!

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Isn't Mother Nature playful this year.

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New year is of course, the season of Resolutions.

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Most of which, I bet we can all admit, we fail to keep. :-)

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At least not for very long.

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A lot of writers tend to make resolutions this time of year.

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The problem with writing resolutions is that they can be a double edged sword.

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They can encourage you to be more productive.

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Or they can be stones and drag you right down into a well of writers block.

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So resolve with care!

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I was actually at a writers luncheon we have once a month -- a host of published writers of all stripes and genres get together to talk, swap gossip, and eat.

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I was listening to people sharing their resolutions and noticed something interesting.

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The more established writers had pretty minimal resolutions, many of which didn't involve writing.

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The newer, novice members tended to have sweeping resolutions -- thousands of words, a novel written.

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There's a reason for that. :-)

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You face enough 'failures' in writing...no need to add NEW ways to fail, for pete's sake!

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Once you get in a slump and stop writing, it's so easy to avoid writing...

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you SHOULD do it, but you didn't last week and it doesn't feel good right now and you're feeling guilty and that makes it feel even less good...

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so you don't write and now you're really failing to keep that resolution of 2500 words a day and maybe you

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should just eat some ice cream and watch TV and start next week and...

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You get the drift.

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One of the things that happens when people start paying you money for your words is that you run into real deadlines...

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and there are many days when you plant that butt in that chair and you would really rather be digging ditches.

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And you also begin to run into the realities of just how much you CAN do as opposed to how much you would LIKE to do.

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You might have two kids, have a 50 hour per week job, an ailing parent.

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They don't go away.

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BUT.

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Resolutions, whether they come on December 31 or May 9th can make a lot of difference in your success as a writer.

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Because you CAN use them to give yourself regular writing time.

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One of the biggest fallacies of the business

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is that you are born with X amount of ability and that will manifest in the first story you write.

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So every story you write is as good as you can do. And so if those first three stories get rejected, you might as well quit.

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Wrong.

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One of the things that editors look for in that slush pile is productivity and perseverance.

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They see your name. And again. And again.

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And gee....you're getting better.

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That story didn't even come close, but this one did, and the next one is almost good enough to publish.

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And that editor is always looking for new pros to write good new stories and or a productive new contributor to the NF magazine...

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so sooner or later, they buy a story. And in part, it is because of the work you have already put in, loading that slush pile with improving stories or queries.

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All this translates to Lots Of Writing.

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And that means Regular Writing Time.

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So resolutions are excellent...if you can make them realistic.

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I will skip this TV show every Monday and Wednesday and Friday and go write for that hour.

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I will get up 30 minutes earlier and turn on the computer before I do anything else.

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I will spend two hours every Saturday and Sunday morning writing before the house wakes up. I'll set my alarm.

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If you decide that you will write that 2500 words every day, just how long do you think you can keep THAT up?

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Be realistic.

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Maybe that daily half hour turns out to be a stint in the library while your kids work on school reports, researching the setting for that romance.

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Maybe your life is REALLY full and it's going to be fifteen minutes a day. A single sentence.

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One of the best things you can do for yourself is to set a 'daily writing' goal that keeps you doing something connected with writing every day.

air goddess

When you first began writing what goal did you set?

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When I first started writing seriously I had a baby and a three year old. My goal was 'Every moment those kids are asleep I will write'.

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And I did. Every time I could get 'em down for a nap I hit that story. Dishes to do? Later. Housework? Later.

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They didn't nap that much!

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Even when I had a list of Other Stuff To Do as long as my arm, I worked on the current story.

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It was SLOW going.

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Later, as they got older and nap times disappeared, it was 'two hours after bedtime'.

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When they went to bed, I set the timer.

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After that, I did whatever else on my huge, endless list of 'to do' stuff I had left. That list never got shorter, believe me

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and I kept some VERY late hours. I was beat most of the time.

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But I had gone from 15 -30 minutes a day...if I was lucky...to an hour or two most nights. (Some nights I just fell asleep at the keyboard).

kay bee

What do you do when you have several writing ideas?

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Good question, kay. :-) And what treasure!

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Generally, I will prioritize. Assuming I don't have a deadline (the ultimate priority)

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I ask myself 'which story is nagging the loudest'. Usually I start that one first.

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What you might try is this. As soon as you stall on that first project...you hit a snag, it slows down....then work on another of those projects.

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As soon as THAT one slows down, go back to the first...by then it should be nagging you again.

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Most of the time I am working on 2 - 3 projects at once. (Three at the moment...two novels, I short story).

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By alternating between projects you can avoid staring at the screen or page while Absolutely Nothing happens in your head.

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If you work on something else, usually the 'stuck' project will shake loose and about the time you start to get stuck on the second project, that first project looks SO desirable.

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Usually, I'm chafing to get back to what had me stalled a few days or weeks before. :-)

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Remember that momentum is your friend.

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Even if you do nothing more than review the story you're working on and think about the next scene or that scene...that is enough to keep the project fresh and alive in your mind.

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When you get completely away from what you are working on so that it gets utterly 'cold' it can be very hard to take it up again.

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Try printing out a copy of what you are working on, staple the pages together and leave it lying around in your space.

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Pick it up once in awhile. Read a bit. Think about the story.

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Scribble notes on the back of the pages.

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If you're doing nonfiction, make a list of the magazines you'd like to write for.

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Leave that lying around. PIck it up now and then. Look at those names.

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What might that editor at Dog and Kennel like?

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Make notes with ideas for articles.

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Think about who you could interview.

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Just do SOMETHING every day.

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Then you are not 'failing' and you can avoid that 'I'm already so bad I might as well be worse' avoidance behavior.

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That was my bottom line when my kids were small. Something every day.

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Might be two scribbled lines on a scrap of paper.

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Something.

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That 'something' is magic.

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It can make you feel like a writer.

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Just as doing nothing will make you feel that you are not a writer.

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Those are powerful feelings and they can help you succeed or REALLY get in your way.

jeannieml

Are you saying that all those ideas I've written in my notebook count as writing?

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Gosh, of course, jean!!!

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Very little of my 'writing' is done in front of my computer!

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It is done while I'm driving and thinking about character motivation.

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It's done as I scribble a quick description of a really cool image I noticed downtown into a notebook.

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it's done while I read the Scientific American for SF story ideas.

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Writing is not just words on paper (or screen).

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And hey, my second novel was nearly entirely written in longhand on scraps of paper as a first draft. :-)

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I was a single mom with two young kids. What computer time? Ha!

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Remember that the more you write, the better you get.

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You don't need to work on that Pulitzer winner only!

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Some writer friends of mine did a 'story a day' thing where they wrote a flash fiction (under 1000 words) story every day. Most were awful.

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A few actually sold.

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But they sharpened their skills. And they're all pros now.

kay bee

Please talk about not always starting at the beginning

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Sure. Why should you start at the beginning?

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By the time you're all done, your story needs to make sense to the readers...

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but that doesn't mean you have to start at the beginning and work to the end if another way of writing works better.

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I have published a number of stories where I came up with a GREAT climax scene!

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Then I just need to build a story back to a plausible beginning. :-)

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Talk about working back to front!

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There is no wrong way to do things.

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As long as the piece works, what you did was right.

gail

Do you write down your daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly writing goals? How do you quatify your successful achievement of them?

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I don't write them down. I don't recall if I ever did. I might have. :-) My only goal is Something Every Day.

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Now my 'something every day' gets defined a lot by professional realities. I just got TWO sets of page proofs for different projects so I can tell you that this weekend 'Something Every Day' translates to

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several hundred pages of copy checking! Sigh.

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I know when I haven't done any work that day.

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(And I don't do that very often...can't remember the last time I didn't at least manage a couple of sentences. :-))

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A small goal you can keep is a WHOLE lot better than a hard and fast goal that you can't keep in reality.

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'something every day' is quite flexible.

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It might be a sentence. Or a note for a new scene.

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It might be twenty pages of novel draft.

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It might be 150 pages of galley proofs checked.

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If you have a big project...that nano draft that you wnat to get out.

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It's a good idea to break that down into manageable segments.

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You're going to revise one chapter every week.

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Something like that.

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It's much easier to put off 'revise the novel' than 'revise 15 pages'. :-)

speckledorf

One thing I learned about setting goals this past week was to set goals that I had control over. For example, publishing with Tor is great but I don't have control over it. Submitting to Tor is something I do control.

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That's an excellent example, speck.

drake

I don't think I've really made any... not that I can think of... I WAS able to get my manuscript together, and in for editing

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Well, you're doing things, drake. :-)

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Not everyone needs resolutions. If you're getting things done, you're fine.

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The danger is making resolutions so 'big' that you can't keep them, and letting that feeling of frustration and failure contribute to a case of writers block.

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We are so part of our writing, that it's very easy for us to feel like failures. Don't make things harder for yourselves than they are already! :-)

drake

I also got my 5th assignment for Shape, Write, Sell in before the next due date of 1-25-07

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Good for you, Drake. :-)

acook

I like the idea of "something everyday" I have a tendency to go too big and then I never get anything done

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Yeah, everybody does, acook. I learned that one the hard way...trying for a 'so many pages' type goal.

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I simply couldn't do it every day and I felt really bad when I didn't. But in my situation at the time, I couldn't do that kind of goal.

drake

Since that time I have lost two friends due to something I wrote, and started wondering if it's worth it though :o(

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Ah, that's too bad, Drake. Maybe the problem lies with your friends.

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It is true that when you start saying, sorry I can't do that, I have to write, you will lose a few friends.

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But I wonder if it was really a big loss. :-)

gail

Any advice on how to tame the guilt complex I have about writing while hubby's off work? It really interrupts "the flow" I've achieved whiile he's working.

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Boy that's an issue. I'd talk to him about it, gail. I had to deal with writing and kids and that guilt. Ouch. I made deals...

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I'll write until noon and then we'll go to the park and play in the pool.

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Try and adult version of that with hubby.

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I'll write until 3 and we'll do what you want after that.

gail

Oh, sorry! The guilt is all my own. Hubby supports me fully. I just feel like a cad ignoring him as I click away at my keyboard. :-/

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Well, gail, if hubby's not hurting, who said you are supposed to be entertaining him 24/7?

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WAtch out for sneaky little avoidance behaviors. :-) Gee, I can't write, send out, risk that rejection slip. I have to [fill in the blank here]

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And you can come up with good reasons not to write/send out/risk rejection slips.

megger

I also incorporate what I write at work as a part of my writing world, especially since I represent the university in much of what I do. That helps my "something every day" challenge.

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Good, megger! Writing is writing. You get better the more you do.

unicorn

Journal writing is a good cure for Writer's Block.

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Yes, unicorn. The only real antidote to writers block is...write.

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It may hurt, you may hate it, but write anyway.

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Tell yourself it's an exercise, it's awful, you'll throw it away as soon as you're done.

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Retell the three bears.

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Retell any of the fairy tales.

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Gee...put a twist in there.

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Write about your lousy boss, the snotty neighbor.

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Rant.

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Write a really gooey, sticky love scene...one you wouldn't show to your best friend.

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Just write.

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Something.

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Describe what you see from your window.

rrmama

I can do that!

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There you go.

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One of the biggest causes of writers block is the expectation that you are supposed to write something good. Earthshaking.

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Publishable.

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ANYTHING you write is going to help you improve.

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So indulge yourself.

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One of my guilty pleasures is to simply write an utterly over the top, adolescent-fantasy, action scene that I wouldn't be caught dead sharing with ANYBODY and won't even save on my hard drive!!!

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Builder, use /ask not ask/ :-)

unicorn

I carry a mini tape recorder when I am walking.

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Great idea, unicorn. I carry one when I'm doing long interstate highway trips.

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Builder asked if it's a good idea to give work to your readers in submission format...double spaced et all.

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Depends, builder.

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If you want them to comment on it, that gives 'em room to write on the page.

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But if you just want your friend to give you a quick 'I like this' or 'what does the end mean' kind of comment, it's not necessary.

smyrna jean

Do you have any suggestions to motivate yourself to move

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from the first draft to the revision

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I'd put the draft aside long enough to sort of forget what I had on the page, smyrna.

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I find it hard to get started on a revision. Just pick a day. Okay, today I will start revising my draft.

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I bet that once you get started, you'll get sucked right into it.

gail

I discovered recently, during a sewing marathon of "Christmas PJs" for the grand-children, that I work most efficiently when I have a clear goal and time frame. I've been considering outlining some more "definite" writing goals for myself. Are you saying this is likely a "block" waiting to happen?

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Not at all.

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It is utterly dependent on who you are and how you work.

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I know many writers who work in a set timeframe every day.

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From 8 - 10 for example, or 3 - 8 or what have you.

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Right now I'm doing that... 8 - 10 is novel time.

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I don't always work that way.

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But it's working for me right now.

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If that works for you, do it.

geezer

8 AM to 10 PM? :-)

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gosh, not geeze!

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AM both.

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I might do more later ( I will as soon as I'm done here)...but that is 'daily'.

builder guy

submission 101 from the Writing Craft of LR is great. Is it good to present most things you let other people read (especially your instructor) in the submission format? Just for practice maybe?

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It's an easy to read format, builder. :-) And it's a good idea to get in the habit of submission format.

gail

I suppose the key is to remain flexible, even when making a written plan. Just write, daily. Right?

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Yes, I think flexible tends to work better than unbendable.

robastor

Sometimes, the goals I set for myself take a little longer to complete. But, it's okay. I don't get so down about it like I have in the past.

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Good, rob!

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Another thing to remember...writing is for the rest of your life.

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That should be a long time, hopefully!

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Well, this has been a fun discussion. :-)

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Well do more on writers block another time, too.

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But I hope you all make resolutions that work for you and don't set the bar so high you start out the year by 'failing'.

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I'll post the transcripts in the usual place: Writing Craft Forum Transcripts. And do join us on Sunday

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for our very fun casual chat. I look forward to that all week. :-)

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We usually have quite a crowd.

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Happy New Year all, and I'll see you then!

unicorn

My daily is 3 am to 5am Don't sleep much 4 hrs per night

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No kidding!

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Night all

 

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