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Slant: The Key to NonFiction Success 12/8/06

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Fri Dec 08 19:02:01 2006

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Fri Dec 08 20:06:32 2006



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Mary Rosenblum

Hello all!

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Welcome to our Friday After Hours Forum.

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I wanted to talk about slant tonight because it's the key to breaking into nonfiction

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and the nonfiction market is VERY easy to break in to.

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Where you have the issue of 'good story' -- which is a subjective judgement once you get to a professional level of craft...

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in nonfiction, a huge number of editors need well written articles to fill 12 issues a year

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and it's all about topic. They expect you to write quality prose.

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But if you don't offer them something they can use, they aren't about to publish you.

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So understanding how to give an editor what he/she needs is critical.

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That is 'slant'.

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Where most novice nonfiction writers run into problems is that they address too large a topic.

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Magazine articles are very narrow in scope and targeted to a very small audience...the readers of the magazine and nobody else.

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Generally, you will rarely be successful if you write an informational article first and then try to market it.

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You simply won't match the needs of various magazines perfectly unless you are lucky.

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Now this has nothing to do with personal narrative or 'creative nonfiction'.

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These are real stories and they are told like fiction stories -- only they are true.

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There, you're dealing with the same issues as in fiction -- dramatic arc, narrative voice, powerful description and so on.

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That's why most magazines want a query only for nonfiction articles but they want the entire manuscript of a personal narrative piece.

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If you think about a topic such as shade gardening, the seems like it might be a good topic to write about

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if you happen to be an experienced gardener, right?

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But it's actually too broad for most editors.

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Think about all the garden magazines out there.

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You have magazines for gardeners in various regions of the country, desert gardeners, high altitude gardeners, container gardeners, rock garden enthusiasts...

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the list goes on.

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If you offer a magazine editor a general piece like 'shade gardening' you'll probably receive a rejectoin.

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Remember? The editor wants articles that appeal ONLY to his/her readers and appeal specifically to those readers.

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So you zero on on those specific readers:

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Shade gardening in containers.

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Shade gardening for the Northeast gardener (or any other region).

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Shade gardening with native species.

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You get the drift.

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These are all various 'slices' of that shade gardening pie.

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These narrower topics are much more likely to sell to editors.

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Generally, once you think you've narrowed your topic down, narrow it some more!

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It takes practice to start thinking in 'narrow' terms when you have that good idea or meet that great interview prospect.

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But slant is how you make a living writing nonfiction. :-0

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One pool of information allows you to write three, four, five or more articles with different slants.

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And they can all sell simultaneously.

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The only way to understand slant is to do your homework.

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That means you decide on which magazine you want to write for

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and you read it. You read as many issues of it as you can get your hands on.

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And analyze what you read.

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Who do you think these articles are written for?

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What do they seem to focus on?

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What is the writing syle like?

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Make sure that your article will match all three of these categories when you query that editor.

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The more your editor can immediately visualize this article in an upcoming issue, the more likely you are to get a 'send it' request.

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Let's look at say, dog agility, a popular dog sport.

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You've gone to the pet store and the like and you've selected a couple of magazines that you'd like to start writing for.

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One is written for the serious dog sport person. It's all about training tips, care of the canine athlete, food comparison, health issues...that sort of thing.

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The other is for owners of small breed dogs...toy poodles, mini pinchers, chihuahuas.

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It's all about doing fun things with your dog, going on vacation with your dog, tips on care, travel, and the like.

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You have an information pool on dog agility and you've lined up interviews with an agility judge and a well established trainer.

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Let's compare our magazines.

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Who are they written for?

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One: Serious competitors, breed not important.

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Two: pet owners of small dogs.

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What do they focus on?

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One: how to win with your dog, no matter what sport you're in.

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Two: Enjoying your small dog.

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Very different so far, yes?

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What is the style?

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One: Serious advice from professionals, written informatively.

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Two: A breezy narrative style with strong reader connection, a sense of 'peer advice'' with a lot of personal tips from readers.

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So your approach to both articles is going to be very different.

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For magazine one, you might pitch a piece on 'warming up the canine athlete' with quotes from your trainer source

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about how to prepare a dog to compete in agility. Maybe you can get a quote or two from a chiropractor who treats dog agility injuries.

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Those expert sources will count a lot with this magazine. Remember, it has a lot of advice from experts pieces in it!

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Your tone is authoritative, serious.

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The readers of this magazine need this in order to compete successfully.

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Bet you sell it!

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Then you write the 'agility fun with the small dog' piece.

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It's breezy with quotes from happy exhibitors who compete in agility trials with their tiny dogs

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talking about how much fun their dogs have.

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Maybe you offer photos.

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Your tone is breezy, with lots of personal anecdotes from those people you interviewed at agility trials.

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The readers, who are always looking for fun new things to do with their dogs will love it.

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And you include a sidebar of contact information for the major agility organizations.

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Bet you sell it!

sailor

More than once, I had an idea for an article for a particular magazine. Just as I start getting it together, the next issue has an article just like it. If there is no other market for my article, is it worth submitting it a year later to my original target magazine?

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Oh, that's tough, Sailor and it's a reality in the freelance world.

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I would not resubmit, sailor. Editors wait way longer than a year to rerun a particular topic.

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What I would do is to come up with a different slant for that same information and query on that about six months to a year later.

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In the real world of making a living writing nonfiction, you just don't write a piece before you sell it.

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You sell it first and then you write it.

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What you get good at is figuring out how many ways you can slant a single pool of information.

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One of my LR students managed to sell 6 articles from one interview when she was taking the course.

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She's the record holder so far. :-)

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Although several other of my students are up to three or so sales from one idea pool.

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An excellent exercise for you on one of these cold, nasty winter days

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when the holiday shopping rush is over (or maybe as a way to avoid the holiday shopping rush!)

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is to go to your library and choose two or three magazines on more or less the same topic. (You can do this at a bookstore, too, but most of them discourage you from reading the magazine before you buy it, so then you have to spend money)

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For example, you might find three different 'outdoor' magazines featuring hiking, camping, etch.

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You might choose three hunting/fishing mags.

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You might choose three gardening mags.

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Now sit down and analyze them. Answer those three questions.

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You'll get a clearer picture of their differences if you analyze several issues of each, but even with a single issue you'll begin to get a sense

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of how different they really are, even if they SEEM to be similar.

onepozy

So when you query, you have done your homework, are ready to write but have written what you are selling to the editor

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Don't write it before you query, one.

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Do your research or have it all set up so that if you have to get an article turned in in a week, you can get the information you need.

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Query the editor, making sure that your proposed article suits the magazine to a T.

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If you get a 'send it' reply, THEN write the article.

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Don't forget. Magazine articles are quite short and you'll have a little working time.

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I was at a conference with a freelancer friend of mine...he makes his living this way...

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and he realized on Sunday afternoon that he had an article that had to be in on Monday morning.

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It was a 1500 word science piece. He had all the information. He got it in on time.

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You do NOT mess with deadlines in this business!

sailor

I've had 6 article published so far, but I still have trouble sometimes estimating length without writing most of it.

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You'll get better with practice, sailor. I don't know what your experience is, but usually editors will tell me what length they want, no matter what I propose.

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Sometimes it's the same, often it's shorter.

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So I write the article, figure out where to trim, trim, count, trim more, until it fits.

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Believe me NF is all about writing to length! You'll get VERY good at figuring out how to keep the strenght of what you want to do and making it 1/3 shorter!

writermom

aren't the guidelines going to dictate the length of the article too and wouldn't you write your query to meet those guidelines

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Usually they'll give a range -- about 1500 words, 1000 - 3000.

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But let me explain how a magazine is put together.

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The editors plan the magazines for the whole year, usually. They decide on the main themes and they assign

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the lead articles to regular contributors. (which you will become if you write well for them).

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Now they have room for some fillers.

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That's what your article will be.

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That means it has to fit whatever space they have in layout.

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And if they want to put your article on shade gardening in their May issue with a native plants theme

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but they only have room for a 1000 word piece that's ALL you get. They will not cut an ad to let you run 1500 words.

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Now.

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When you have written a few good articles for them, the editor likes your style...

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YOU will get that 'can you write an article for the June issue' request.

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And you'll probably get more words.

info

When you trim and find that what is left is important to keep in with needing to trim more, is that where you need to find a shorter way to say the same thing?

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Yep.

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You get VERY good at figuring out what is critical and finding ways to use ONLY the words needed.

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Believe me, writing NF will teach you to write VERY tight prose.

katnj

Do you mention things like sidebars and photos in your query?

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Yes, I would.

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You offer them, and the editor says yes or now.

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Although the sidebar is less a selling point than the photos.

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Remember...most mags use a lot of photos and they'd rather not have to send a photographer out to illustrate your article for them.

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I just include the sidebar when I send in the final article. If the editor wants it, she'll pay me for it.

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if she doesn't want it she won't use it.

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Might as well try it.

sailor

The articles I've have had published are light in tone. I can take one of them and slant it to a more serious market. That market wants published clips with queries. I don't have a "serious" published clip. Would it be best to send them the lighter version that has been published, explaining how their version would be different, or would it be best to write something else just to send in with the query? The guidelines say do not send in the article you are proposing as a clip.

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Send them the published version, sailor. Mostly they want to be sure you write publishable prose.

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Even a different tone will demonstrate ability.

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It's better if the clip is similar to what you mean to write, but it's not crucial.

didahl

What's sidebar?

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"Ah, that's a small, separate piece, usually contact information or some other information that you don't want to include in the body of the article.

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For example, if you're writing a travel piece on weekend retreats in San Cristobal your sidebar

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might contain contact information for the hotels and restaurants you mention.

geezer

What about clips for a newbie?

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That is SO hard, geeze.

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You need to send in a writing sample if you have no clips.

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One of my students tried sending in the entire article even though a query was requested, telling the editor that this was her writing sample since she had no clips.

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About half the time the editor rejected her out of hand. The other half the editor read the article.

onepozy

Would a published letter to the editor be considered a clip?

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If it's a big metropolitan paper, one.

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Not if it's a tiny local.

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If you want clips, they're not hard to get. :-)

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You simply start at the bottom of the heap, writing for magazines that pay very little money.

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The pros won't write for them and they are very hungry for stuff.

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Use those clips to sub to larger circulation mags.

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Use those clips to sub to even larger circulation mags.

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And so forth.

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And of course, if you have the perfect fit for a magazine, and the editor wants it, your lack of clips won't matter.

charie'

When you send clips, do you cite, for example, the Magazine, issue date, page #, etc?

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You do need to send a copy of the actual article so that the editor can see it and read it if he chooses to.

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There are too many NF mags in the universe!

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If it's online, send a link to the archived copy or a copy of the published webpage from your files.

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You DID make a copy of the webpage with your article on it, didn't you?

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NF is not about names...

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It's all about providing good work.

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Once you prove yourself to an editor you'll get work if you write what that editor needs.

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It's worth it to do your homework, figure out what an editor wants and then try to send him/her queries that really will work for the mag.

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What often happens is after your second or third query which gets turned down (the editor has that topic covered or doesn't want it), you'll get an assignment.

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But that only happens if your queries are for the type of article the magazine runs.

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Another good exercise. Pick a topic and see how many diferent slants you can wring out of it. :-)

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Well, the hour has whizzed past!

sailor

Re word length: After getting a positive response to my query, I submitted a feature length article (1300 words). The editor said he wanted to publish it, but as a short. He offered for 350 words. I gulped, thinking I had honed my article well. I was amazed when I took another pass at it and cut it in half on the first try. Amazing what you can do when you have to!

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Excellent example, sailor and that is SO true!

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I'ts great practice for you and you know what? When you have a check dangling in front of you, it's easier than you think.

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And sailor, that editor now knows that you're flexible and professional. You'll get serious attention when you query from now on.

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Well, I'll post the transcript of this in the usual place:

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Writing Craft: Forum Transcripts.

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Have a good weekend all.

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Do join us on Sunday for our casual chat.

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It's a lot of fun and usually a bunch of people show up.

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Stay warm!

 

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